Asking about people to start fitna is not permissible
Explained by Shaykh Rabee (hafidhahullaah)
Shaykh Muhammad bin Haadee: The questioner says: May Allah bless you and give you good. Is asking about the people from the guidance of the Salaf?
Shaykh Rabee: Yes, asking about the people is from the Minhaj of the Salaf; look to see who you take your deen from. Verily this knowledge is deen, thus look to see from whom you take your deen.
Some people ask will truthfulness and sincerity, they desire to take their deen from qualified Scholars with sound Aqeedah and sound Minhaj, thus for this reason they ask.
And some of the people ask because they want fitna. During this time period, there are many questions; what is your opinion about so and so. What do you think about so and so, what is your view about the Minhaj of so and so? And his intention is not to benefit from the person or to avoid him, rather he has another intention. His intention is to disseminate and spread fitna among the people. These types of questions are not permissible because they are for the purpose of fitna, and the affairs are according to their intentions.
But if the questioner wants good, and he wants to learn and he wants to take his deen in the correct manner then it is incumbent upon him to search for those whom he should take his deen from.
Translated by Rasheed ibn Estes Barbee
Translated by Rasheed ibn Estes Barbee
Presented to you by Markaz Tawheed was-Sunnah in Durham, NC
The questioner says: When some of the brothers are advised to avoid associating with the people of innovation and to avoid their gatherings, they answer with the statement: ‘I’m well-grounded.’ Therefore what is your advice? May Allah preserve you.
Answer: (Shaykh Rabee)
We say to him, if you were well-grounded you would not associate with them. If you were well-grounded you would have known the Salafi Minhaj, you would know the danger which you are exposed to, you would know about the victims from those just like you; those who were deceived just like you. By Allah, if you were like that (well grounded) you would not walk with the people of innovation. Many of the people associate with the people of innovation using the argument that he is going to benefit them!
Oh my brother they don’t benefit from the Scholars so how are they going to benefit from you?!! They reject the statements of ibn Baz and Albani and ibn Uthameen, may Allah have mercy upon them, and they reject the statements of other Scholars from the Imaams of Islam, and they are going to accept it from you?!! This is madness. Furthermore there is a ninety nine percent chance that you will become one of their followers.
Translated by Rasheed Barbee
Q&A With Shaykh Ahmad Bazmool
Author: Shaykh Ahmad ibn ‘Umar Baazmool (hafidhahullaah Ta’aala)
Questions posed by Anwar Wright & Abu Yusuf Khaleefah, Translated by Anwar Wright
Published on 7 Jun 2012 by SalafyInk
We know the virtue of the Lajnatud Daa`imah (i.e. The Permanent Committee of Scholars in Saudi Arabia) and that they are those who possess knowledge and virtue, and they are returned to in those Nawaazil (i.e. major issues concerning the Ummah). However, some people if they are refuted by some of the people of knowledge, like Shaykh Rabee’ or Shaykh ‘Ubayd – hafithahumaAllah – they say, ‘we’re returning our affairs to the Lajnatud Daa`imah,’ so what is your statement concerning this?
The Lajnatud Daa`imah has ‘ulamah (scholars). The likes of Shaykh Abdul- ‘Aziz Aali Shaykh and like Shaykh Saalih al Fawzaan – hafithahumullah – and they are well known scholars. However, this questioner who says: “We’re returning our affairs to the Lajnatud Daa`imah,” there is nothing wrong with returning the affairs to the ‘ulamah (scholars), and there is nothing wrong with asking a question to more than one scholar. However, we say to this questioner, you leave the statement of Shaykh Rabee’ and then you go to the Lajnatud Daa`imah to ask them, there is nothing wrong with this. However, it is incumbent that you give the full picture of the question, just as Shaykh Rabee’ knows the full picture and the detailed affair. What does this mean?
Shaykh Rabee’ perhaps may say about a thing that it is an innovation and misguidance from that which he knows from the trickery that may occur and (what he knows) from the people of desires taking advantage of a situation. The board of major scholars may perhaps be asked about a matter which outwardly seems good, and they say there is no problem with that. This is because you didn’t mention to them the harms (of the situation) and you didn’t mention some of the angles by which if mentioned will have an effect on the ruling [i.e. you concealed in your question to the second group of scholars what was not concealed to the first group scholars!].
So for example if the Shaykh (i.e Rabee’) says about an affair, ‘this affair is bid’ah’ and then the Lajnatud Daa`imah and some others from the people of knowledge like Shaykh ['Abdul-MuHsin] al-Abbad says, ‘this affair is not a bid’ah,’ here I say both of them are correct and there is no contradiction between the two of them. The only contradiction is in the question. So both of them are correct because Shaykh Rabee’ – hafithahumullah – judged on these affairs and the Lajnatud Daa`imah – or Shaykh Abdul-MuHsin al-’Abbad or Shaykh Saalih Suhaymee, – hafithahumullah – if they say, ‘this matter is correct and there is nothing wrong with it,’ they only ruled based upon the question that came to them - in which those negative aspects of the question were not mentioned.
Let’s give an example regarding this. For example Shaykh Rabee’ declares Abul Hasan al Ma`ribee to be an innovator and others from the scholars – who are known to be upon the Sunnah – did not declare him to be an innovator. Is there any contradiction between them? We say: No. Shaykh Rabee’ knew from the condition of Abul Hasan al Ma`ribee that which declares him to be an innovator, and the others didn’t know from him -conditions that which- declares him to be an innovator. Perhaps they only heard some rumors and some things being spread around, and then Abul Hasan himself would go to them and make apparent to them that he is upon the Sunnah, thus they would judge from what he made apparent to them.
The scholars do not know the unseen; they are only human beings and they make rulings according to what they hear. So due to this, we say to this questioner: Fear Allaah within yourself, and fear Allaah regarding the scholars, and fear Allaah regarding your religion and your brothers that you try to misguide them with the likes of these affairs!
And this is what is understood by the statement of some of the scholars,
“Whoever (out of vain desires) shops around for the different allowances of the scholars falls into heresy.”
Meaning, whoever does the likes of these actions, he resembles the actions of the fusaaq (i.e. rebellious sinners). So you ask Shaykh Rabee’ something and you know his fatwa (in the matter), and then you go to another scholar seeking another fatwa due to some vain desire within yourself – not out of fear of Allaah, the Mighty and Majestic. Because if you want the truth and what is correct, you know that the speech of Shaykh Rabee’ – for the most part – with his proofs and with its truth is accepted amongst the scholars, so why are you searching here and there for the fatawa that you want to go in accordance with your own excuses and those who agree with you.
Oh my brother, you know that Shaykh Rabee’ declared so and so to be an innovator due to his misguidance, and you know of this. Then you go to another scholar who does not declare him an innovator, rather he praises him, know that you are sinning from many angles.
Firstly: you have hidden some truth (in your question) from this scholar.
Secondly: you will bear that burden of everyone put to trial by this question that you [deceptively] asked that scholar.
Thirdly: you are playing with the religion of Allaah the Mighty and Majestic.
Fourthy: with this way of yours, you have opened a door for evil for the common folk, and have misguided them. Then also know that Shaykh Al-’Abbad, for example, or Shaykh as-Suhaymee or other than them who may have praised [them] and the other scholars who have declared their misguidance, they are excused, because they don’t know their detailed affairs and they do not know the unseen.
Also the one who knows is a proof against the one who doesn’t know and the one who criticizes has some extra details that the one who praised did not have (about the person), thus the one who praises is excused. For this reason, the scholars mention if a scholar gives a fatwa and errs, he has one reward and if he gives a fatwa and is correct, he has two rewards just as it comes in the hadeeth.
Likewise the one who must blind follow (i.e. the common person who does not have the ability to look into the evidences) knows that this scholar erred, but he follows him anyway, then this common blind follower is sinning and you are just like this.
So – by Allaah – beware regarding our religion, and beware regarding the common folk, and beware regarding our scholars. Let us not start this calamity and this confusion all due to some personal or monetary gains and benefits. For indeed the religion of Allaah is something valued and something that is preserved – by the permission of Allaah – and you only harm yourself at the end of the day.
The Unity of Ahlus-Sunnah in their Position Against Ahlul-Bid’ah – Abu Ramlah Adam Lazarus (audio/english)
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Our brother, Aboo Ramlah Aadam Lazarus hafithahullaah bases this reminder upon a lecture delivered by Shaykh Rabee’ Ibn Haadee hafithahullah entitled, “The Correct Position Against the People of Innovation.”
The speaker first defines who are the people of Sunnah and who are the people of Bid’ah (innovation), then he speaks about some of the Salafee brothers who are negligent in dealing with the people of bid’ah and who are put off when topics of manhaj are discussed.
Towards the end, the speaker brings more benefits from the speech of Shaykh Muhammad Ibn Haadee al-Madkhalee hafithahullaah, such as the claim that refutation of the people of bid’ah must come from a Scholar only and other doubts.
This lecture is transcribed by Brother Maher Attiyah. May Allaah reward him.
Bismillaah Al-Hamdulillaah wa salatu wa salaamu ‘ala rasulullaah
How Ahlus Sunnah need to be unified in their stance toward Ahlul Bid’ah
All Praise is due to Allaah, and may the peace and blessings be upon the Messenger, his family, his companions, and those who follow them til the Day of Judgment.
[The speaker was Abu Ramlah Aadam Lazarus, a graduate of Madeenah University who compiled this lecture from Shaikh Rabee' Ibn Haadee al-Madkhalee's tape Al mawqif a sahih min ahlul bid'ah ("The Correct Position Against the People of Innovation") and from additional benefits by Shaikh Muhammad Ibn Haadee al-Madkhalee and Shaikh 'Ubaid A-Jabiree (hafidhahumullaah).]
This [topic] is necessary because the people of Ahlus Sunnah wal Jama’ah in this time seem confused on this issue. As for the people of Ahlus Sunnah wal Jama’ah, they are the people who hold fast to the Qur`an and Sunnah, with the understanding of the sahaba (companions) and [the rest of] the salaf. And as for Ahlul Bid’ah, they are those who have innovated into Islam that which is not from it – from beliefs or actions – or they choose to understand the text of the Qur`an and Sunnah with their own desire, rather than basing their understanding on the understanding of the sahaba and [the rest of] the salaf.
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Al-Albaanee's Praise of Rabee bin Haadee al-Madkhalee & Muqbil bin Haadee al-Waadi'ee
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Shaykh Muhammad Nasir ud-deen al-Albaanee's praise and defense of Shaykh Rabee bin Haadee al-Madkhalee & Shaykh Muqbil bin Haadee al-Waadi'ee.
Despite peoples attempt to discredit the likes of Shaykh Rabee and Shaykh Muqbil, amongst the Scholars past and present they are known to be upright Scholars, of sound Aqeedah and Manhaj.
Encouragement to have Affection and Friendliness and Warning Against Splitting up and Differing – Shaykh Rabee bin Haadee al-Madkhalee
Encouragement to have Affection & Friendliness and Warning Against Splitting up and Differing
الحث على المودة والائتلاف والتحذير من الفرقة والاختلاف
Ash-Shaykh Ad-Doctoor Rabee’ bin Haadee al-Madkhalee – May Allaah preserve him.
للشيخ الدكتور ربيع بن هادي المدخلي حفظه الل
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Audio Source: http://www.imam-malik.net/vb/showthread.php?p=9848
English Translation Source: http://www.salafyink.com/aqeedah/Encouragement.pdf
Arabic Transcription: http://www.rabee.net/show_book.aspx?pid=3&bid=263&gid